Thanks for writing this. I've been trying to listen to Yarvin for a few months now. If it wasn't for Vance, I would not have made the effort. I'm 74 years old and have seen these guys come and go. In fact, my brother used to work at the Pentagon back in the 90's. He often described similar plans but by the military. Thiel has probably gained access to all kinds of data with Palantir. Oh and I believe they are all batshit crazy messed up little boys. Even if they could get close to pulling it off, it will crash and burn under it's own weight. The problem is, many many people will get hurt. Let's hope Vance stays out of the WH.
If Harris wins the killing and the wars will accelerate. With Trump in the WH for 4 years and then Vance the following 8 years mostly Palestiniabs will suffer greatly. Horrible as that is with Harris it will be worse, much worse.
I don't care one bit for the American ppl, they share resoinsibility for everything since the first regime change in Tripoli in 1805, 219 years ago.
This is intriguing work from the Drop Site night shift. I'm not sure what to think of this since I do not trust any billionaire or politician to do a single thing that would be in the best interest of anyone but themselves.
"What the gods and all reasonable humans fought in vain wasn't stupidity at all. It was sheer, wanton, bloody indifference to anybody's interest but their own." -- John le Carré
Capitalism is doomed but not because of being hobbled by government. It is doomed by its very design. It demands more tomorrow than today and more the day after. It depends on unending growth and has no ability to handle physical limits such as are becoming more obvious all the time in our warming world.
There are 3.5 times as many people on the planet today as there were when I was born in 1950 and the growth has not stopped. Throughout this very short 74 year period, every business has wanted to increase business, the vast majority of human beings have wanted more of everything, whether it be merely enough to eat or another car, or a flight to who knows where for fun.
As can be seen by checking the NOAA atmospheric monitoring site at Mauna Loa, HI, there is not the slightest sign of moderation in the relentless increase in CO2, methane following right along. This in spite of the shift to solar power, the increase in EV's on the road and all the pledges of governments to reduce CO2.
Musk and friends are in a dream of power that has no connection with reality. Your article establishes that all they want is a more efficient, unrestricted capitalism. They are cheerleading acceleration of an economic system that is rapidly approaching the terminal fate that is inherent in it. Judging by the American rush to huge pickup trucks and SUV's, Americans share the delirium.
Here is a joke to close my comment: "man is the rational animal"
Jeremy was outstanding as usual on camera, spat out every relevant fact a human being can in the limited time allowed, complete with blood curdling detail. And this scheme by the billionaires just shows how futile the neolib call for "transparency" is. Until legalized bribery ends, this country's demise will be fast and brutal. Relegating "democracy" to political campaigns was a disaster. Now people feel completely disenfranchised by the rich, from local and statewide resolutions to greasing the wheels for every developer who drops a fat wad of cash to buying media access to focus on nothing we care most about, like billions spent on wars to profit so few.
"With SpaceX, Starlink and X, Musk has more foreign policy sway than probably any unelected person in US history."
The Guardian 26.9.2024
The horrid little man Musk has been given far too much power. He and buddy Trump are twin megalomaniacal minds. So much of concern in this report. It sounds like accountability could be totally overridden by corporate control of all government services and thus corporate in confidence type laws which would kill open democracy in US. A rogue state on steroids. I can't vote in US and despair of both parties on Gaza, but Trump should be banished.
History repeats itself and this experiment has been tried before with Hitler and the Nazi Party in Germany. As large corporations consolidated their control over the German economy they decided to back Hitler financially. He promised to discipline labor and effectively stimulated the economy with rearmament. However the notion that any one corporation could control the state was proven completely false. The state is by its nature coercive. It possesses a army. The dictator can compel any corporation to conform to his policy. The minute a Musk tries to impose his corporate interests on a Hitler like dictator he will find out who has the real power. How does the state operate in circumstances where there is no accountability? Like a mafia. Trump makes it very clear that he wants personal benefits from power. If Musk studies China he should look at what the purge of Communists on the corporate take was all about. Musk will be the first to go the minute he tries to control Trump.
German corporations came out of WW2 with a wrecked economy and their factories in ruin. There will be no US unscathed coming out of an imperialist war with nuclear weapons to rebuild Musk's empire.
Recently FT editorialized that Musk needed to go back to what he does best. That isn't running a political system where power ultimately is derived from the people and their consent.
Question for Vance: Rome became an empire, spending more on the military than everything else - which reminds me of something or other - so what happened ultimately?
Just watched Scahill interview on MSNBC. A brilliant and urgent plea for sanity ... telling it like it is in Palestine. Most media in Aust sanitizes the truth. My local grocer has family in south Lebanon and experiences constant great anxiety about their well being. Palestinians are experiencing living hell. Israel is acting with extreme psychosis and a savagery that goes well past warfare. It's horrifying that US keeps arming them with bombs etc. It's horrifying that UK, NZ, Canada and Australia are not putting enormous pressure on US to stop. Instead they turn meekly away. So pathetic.
On HongKong-->>"...the party will run things smooth and safely for you"? Ask Ai Weiwei how that worked out. (Ai has been called China's most famous artist. His works focus on human rights abuses using video, photography) “The government maintained strict censorship and control over people’s thoughts,” Ai had begun to overtly question the role of art in a restrictive society. He and Feng Boyi curated an exhibition titled “Fuck Off” to coincide with the Shanghai Biennial. Ai’s submission was a series of photographs titled “Perspective.” Each featured a close-up of his hand giving the finger to a cultural icon—the Washington Monument, the Forbidden City and Musk among many others.
'If you want freedom, we need to learn from Hong Kong' -->>nothing will thrive, real culture will die in Thiel or Musk's dollhouse and nobody wants to live there.
I'm not trying to bogart space, or come across as it know-it-all. But I've been a tech entrepreneur for 36 years. It's the only professional gig I've had. I know the business.
I just posted this on Michael Moore's substack, I wanted to share it with y'all. Sam's piece should be a clarion call. I hope it is.
As I wrote I believe the two most important actions we the people can take for a brighter future are: defund Elon (leave corporate social media) and civic engagement.
Here's what I wrote. Many thanks and gratitude to Drop Site News. Long may you run, NFA!
I agree with Mike. I'm 60/40 that playing to the center is the right strategy. 60 being I don't believe it's going to work, Trump wins.
Whatever happens. What does it say about the Democratic Party that the election is this close? To me it says the Democrats have failed, over years. Either way, I hope people will rally and either reform the party from the bottom up or start a new party. Some names that comes to mind of politicians I happen to admire are Lina Khan (I get she's not a politician), Katie Porter, Bernie Sanders, and Jasmine Crockett. They seem to get it.
It's way past time to hold the Democrats feet to the fire. But it's also way past time that Americans realize that corporate social media is a social disease.
I'm a tech entrepreneur since '88. When FB hit we told people what was coming. I wrote that one day our elections would be decided because of social media. I/We were right. Now look what's happened.
I hope people will leave corporate social media and join the Fediverse. Because X and FB and their cohorts are a big reason why we're in the mess we are. My gosh folks, look what Elon is up to. It is so discouraging that people continue to login to X or FB.
I know who these people are. This piece (Sam's) is right on. What people don't understand is that for Elon, Thiel, and their kind money isn't enough. Neither is sex, drugs, fame. No. They're bored by all that. What Elon and Co. wants is complete control over the population. This, is their ultimate buzz.
There's an old saying in coding, that the ultimate programming language has just 1 line: "do what I'm thinking". It has just one parameter - human(s).
When Elon and his cohorts take over our government, they can then achieve their dream of do what I'm thinking.
A big key to their plans is that everyone is one place - think shooting fish in a barrel. This is why Elon bought X. It's why he wants to turn X into WeChat. But he can't do it if people leave X - and FB for that matter (although Zuck isn't quite as evil as Elon).
The best thing anyone can for our society - along with civic engagement - is leave corporate social media - X - and join the Fediverse. No one will miss you, I promise. You can send your friends and relatives picture via text message.
Please. Defund Elon. That starts with deactivating X. Then tell others why they should do the same. Don't buy a Tesla. If you have a Tesla, sell it and buy a Rivian.
BTW. I deactived X, I'm selling our Tesla and buying a Rivian.
This is incredibly disturbing. Since Musk openly endorsed Trump and recently began doing solo rallies, my first thought was that he is lobbying for the presidency himself. But since he is a foreign born citizen, he would be ineligible. So here’s the frightening workaround. The United States of America, Inc. with himself the CEO.
About Musk’s role in coups that will give him financial gain -
‘The seeds for Musk’s eventual purchase of Twitter can actually be traced back to this exchange [on Twitter] in 2020:
Armani @historyofarmani
You know what wasn’t in the best interests of the American people? The U.S. government organising a coup against Evo Morales in Bolivia so you could obtain the Lithium there
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Replying to @historyofarmani
We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it.
July 25, 2020
Musk coup tweet
Retrieved from Twitter on September 25, 2024
Musk has since deleted the tweet, but this post, published two years before Elon started buying up Twitter stock, which eventually led to his purchase of the app, points to the logic in why he sees such value in the company.
The tweet above is in reference to a political coup in Bolivia, which led to the ousting of then Bolivian President Evo Morales. Rumors have long suggested that the U.S. was involved in the coup, with American authorities reportedly seeking to gain control over the nation’s lithium resources, and keep it out of the hands of Russia and China.’
Thanks for writing this. I've been trying to listen to Yarvin for a few months now. If it wasn't for Vance, I would not have made the effort. I'm 74 years old and have seen these guys come and go. In fact, my brother used to work at the Pentagon back in the 90's. He often described similar plans but by the military. Thiel has probably gained access to all kinds of data with Palantir. Oh and I believe they are all batshit crazy messed up little boys. Even if they could get close to pulling it off, it will crash and burn under it's own weight. The problem is, many many people will get hurt. Let's hope Vance stays out of the WH.
If Harris wins the killing and the wars will accelerate. With Trump in the WH for 4 years and then Vance the following 8 years mostly Palestiniabs will suffer greatly. Horrible as that is with Harris it will be worse, much worse.
I don't care one bit for the American ppl, they share resoinsibility for everything since the first regime change in Tripoli in 1805, 219 years ago.
We’re selling our Model X, going to buy a Rivian. And I deactivated X on 7-21-24.
This is intriguing work from the Drop Site night shift. I'm not sure what to think of this since I do not trust any billionaire or politician to do a single thing that would be in the best interest of anyone but themselves.
I’m a tech entrepreneur since ‘88. This piece is right on.
"What the gods and all reasonable humans fought in vain wasn't stupidity at all. It was sheer, wanton, bloody indifference to anybody's interest but their own." -- John le Carré
How blind can these movers and shakers be?
Capitalism is doomed but not because of being hobbled by government. It is doomed by its very design. It demands more tomorrow than today and more the day after. It depends on unending growth and has no ability to handle physical limits such as are becoming more obvious all the time in our warming world.
There are 3.5 times as many people on the planet today as there were when I was born in 1950 and the growth has not stopped. Throughout this very short 74 year period, every business has wanted to increase business, the vast majority of human beings have wanted more of everything, whether it be merely enough to eat or another car, or a flight to who knows where for fun.
As can be seen by checking the NOAA atmospheric monitoring site at Mauna Loa, HI, there is not the slightest sign of moderation in the relentless increase in CO2, methane following right along. This in spite of the shift to solar power, the increase in EV's on the road and all the pledges of governments to reduce CO2.
Musk and friends are in a dream of power that has no connection with reality. Your article establishes that all they want is a more efficient, unrestricted capitalism. They are cheerleading acceleration of an economic system that is rapidly approaching the terminal fate that is inherent in it. Judging by the American rush to huge pickup trucks and SUV's, Americans share the delirium.
Here is a joke to close my comment: "man is the rational animal"
Jeremy was outstanding as usual on camera, spat out every relevant fact a human being can in the limited time allowed, complete with blood curdling detail. And this scheme by the billionaires just shows how futile the neolib call for "transparency" is. Until legalized bribery ends, this country's demise will be fast and brutal. Relegating "democracy" to political campaigns was a disaster. Now people feel completely disenfranchised by the rich, from local and statewide resolutions to greasing the wheels for every developer who drops a fat wad of cash to buying media access to focus on nothing we care most about, like billions spent on wars to profit so few.
We’re grateful, just gave $25.
I would increase our monthly if it would help you leave X.
Long may you run,
NFA,
"With SpaceX, Starlink and X, Musk has more foreign policy sway than probably any unelected person in US history."
The Guardian 26.9.2024
The horrid little man Musk has been given far too much power. He and buddy Trump are twin megalomaniacal minds. So much of concern in this report. It sounds like accountability could be totally overridden by corporate control of all government services and thus corporate in confidence type laws which would kill open democracy in US. A rogue state on steroids. I can't vote in US and despair of both parties on Gaza, but Trump should be banished.
Jeremy Scahill for the win, as always.
History repeats itself and this experiment has been tried before with Hitler and the Nazi Party in Germany. As large corporations consolidated their control over the German economy they decided to back Hitler financially. He promised to discipline labor and effectively stimulated the economy with rearmament. However the notion that any one corporation could control the state was proven completely false. The state is by its nature coercive. It possesses a army. The dictator can compel any corporation to conform to his policy. The minute a Musk tries to impose his corporate interests on a Hitler like dictator he will find out who has the real power. How does the state operate in circumstances where there is no accountability? Like a mafia. Trump makes it very clear that he wants personal benefits from power. If Musk studies China he should look at what the purge of Communists on the corporate take was all about. Musk will be the first to go the minute he tries to control Trump.
German corporations came out of WW2 with a wrecked economy and their factories in ruin. There will be no US unscathed coming out of an imperialist war with nuclear weapons to rebuild Musk's empire.
Recently FT editorialized that Musk needed to go back to what he does best. That isn't running a political system where power ultimately is derived from the people and their consent.
Question for Vance: Rome became an empire, spending more on the military than everything else - which reminds me of something or other - so what happened ultimately?
Just watched Scahill interview on MSNBC. A brilliant and urgent plea for sanity ... telling it like it is in Palestine. Most media in Aust sanitizes the truth. My local grocer has family in south Lebanon and experiences constant great anxiety about their well being. Palestinians are experiencing living hell. Israel is acting with extreme psychosis and a savagery that goes well past warfare. It's horrifying that US keeps arming them with bombs etc. It's horrifying that UK, NZ, Canada and Australia are not putting enormous pressure on US to stop. Instead they turn meekly away. So pathetic.
On HongKong-->>"...the party will run things smooth and safely for you"? Ask Ai Weiwei how that worked out. (Ai has been called China's most famous artist. His works focus on human rights abuses using video, photography) “The government maintained strict censorship and control over people’s thoughts,” Ai had begun to overtly question the role of art in a restrictive society. He and Feng Boyi curated an exhibition titled “Fuck Off” to coincide with the Shanghai Biennial. Ai’s submission was a series of photographs titled “Perspective.” Each featured a close-up of his hand giving the finger to a cultural icon—the Washington Monument, the Forbidden City and Musk among many others.
'If you want freedom, we need to learn from Hong Kong' -->>nothing will thrive, real culture will die in Thiel or Musk's dollhouse and nobody wants to live there.
Howdy folks,
I'm not trying to bogart space, or come across as it know-it-all. But I've been a tech entrepreneur for 36 years. It's the only professional gig I've had. I know the business.
I just posted this on Michael Moore's substack, I wanted to share it with y'all. Sam's piece should be a clarion call. I hope it is.
As I wrote I believe the two most important actions we the people can take for a brighter future are: defund Elon (leave corporate social media) and civic engagement.
Here's what I wrote. Many thanks and gratitude to Drop Site News. Long may you run, NFA!
I agree with Mike. I'm 60/40 that playing to the center is the right strategy. 60 being I don't believe it's going to work, Trump wins.
Whatever happens. What does it say about the Democratic Party that the election is this close? To me it says the Democrats have failed, over years. Either way, I hope people will rally and either reform the party from the bottom up or start a new party. Some names that comes to mind of politicians I happen to admire are Lina Khan (I get she's not a politician), Katie Porter, Bernie Sanders, and Jasmine Crockett. They seem to get it.
It's way past time to hold the Democrats feet to the fire. But it's also way past time that Americans realize that corporate social media is a social disease.
I'm a tech entrepreneur since '88. When FB hit we told people what was coming. I wrote that one day our elections would be decided because of social media. I/We were right. Now look what's happened.
I hope people will leave corporate social media and join the Fediverse. Because X and FB and their cohorts are a big reason why we're in the mess we are. My gosh folks, look what Elon is up to. It is so discouraging that people continue to login to X or FB.
I know who these people are. This piece (Sam's) is right on. What people don't understand is that for Elon, Thiel, and their kind money isn't enough. Neither is sex, drugs, fame. No. They're bored by all that. What Elon and Co. wants is complete control over the population. This, is their ultimate buzz.
There's an old saying in coding, that the ultimate programming language has just 1 line: "do what I'm thinking". It has just one parameter - human(s).
When Elon and his cohorts take over our government, they can then achieve their dream of do what I'm thinking.
A big key to their plans is that everyone is one place - think shooting fish in a barrel. This is why Elon bought X. It's why he wants to turn X into WeChat. But he can't do it if people leave X - and FB for that matter (although Zuck isn't quite as evil as Elon).
The best thing anyone can for our society - along with civic engagement - is leave corporate social media - X - and join the Fediverse. No one will miss you, I promise. You can send your friends and relatives picture via text message.
Please. Defund Elon. That starts with deactivating X. Then tell others why they should do the same. Don't buy a Tesla. If you have a Tesla, sell it and buy a Rivian.
BTW. I deactived X, I'm selling our Tesla and buying a Rivian.
Thanks Mike,
This is incredibly disturbing. Since Musk openly endorsed Trump and recently began doing solo rallies, my first thought was that he is lobbying for the presidency himself. But since he is a foreign born citizen, he would be ineligible. So here’s the frightening workaround. The United States of America, Inc. with himself the CEO.
Whats is Bibbi Netanyahu's opinion? I mean he is running the USA and
must know Musk.
About Musk’s role in coups that will give him financial gain -
‘The seeds for Musk’s eventual purchase of Twitter can actually be traced back to this exchange [on Twitter] in 2020:
Armani @historyofarmani
You know what wasn’t in the best interests of the American people? The U.S. government organising a coup against Evo Morales in Bolivia so you could obtain the Lithium there
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Replying to @historyofarmani
We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it.
July 25, 2020
Musk coup tweet
Retrieved from Twitter on September 25, 2024
Musk has since deleted the tweet, but this post, published two years before Elon started buying up Twitter stock, which eventually led to his purchase of the app, points to the logic in why he sees such value in the company.
The tweet above is in reference to a political coup in Bolivia, which led to the ousting of then Bolivian President Evo Morales. Rumors have long suggested that the U.S. was involved in the coup, with American authorities reportedly seeking to gain control over the nation’s lithium resources, and keep it out of the hands of Russia and China.’
Source : socialmediatoday.com 1 Oct 2024