In the occupied West Bank, Israeli restrictions on movement for Palestinians, denial of access to resources, and settlement expansion have all ramped up over the past 18 months.
you see this happening over and over again. "No other land" is basically about this, free palestine tv just dropped an interview with a lonely farmer as well, whose property is staked with Israeli flags and they just flatout tell him, if he touches the flags they'll cut off his hands.
I hate the word "settler" used by Zionist land thieves. It seems to be a word used for Zionist propaganda to make obvious terrorism sound nice to the Wests MSN.
Thank you Drop Site for exposing the lies of the Zionist Israeli parasites.
I think the term “settler” is used deliberately to frame it within the broader context of settler colonialism—drawing parallels with the U.S., Canada, or Australia. It’s not just propaganda—it’s a strategic choice meant to shape perception.
What I find odd is the inconsistency in applying that label. Why aren’t Han Chinese in Xinjiang called settlers? Or Azerbaijanis moving into Nagorno-Karabakh? Or Russians into Crimea? The language shifts depending on who’s “in the wrong” based on someone’s moral framework.
That’s the part that bothers me. The terminology becomes a weapon, not a description—and its usage ends up being more about subjective judgment than objective categorization.
And if we zoom out: our entire human history is written in settlement and eradication of previous inhabitants. Even the Arabs in the Levant—Palestine included—were settlers at one point, who either eradicated or subjugated whoever was there before them. So now, because we wrote some toothless international law 60 years ago that barely anyone respects, we suddenly expect to override deeply embedded Homo sapiens behavior patterns? That’s wishful thinking at best.
I agree. It may be deeply embedded behavior, but we can do better. We should still try to expose and shame those who perpetuate violence in the name of colonialism. Call out the propaganda for what it is.
Yes, calling out propaganda and pointing out patterns of violence is absolutely valid — but we may have different expectations about human nature.
I don’t believe we can "do better" in the sense of fundamentally changing who we are. We're just animals with more complex neural wiring. If you put a hungry lion next to a zebra, it will try to eat it. That’s not cruelty — that’s behavior shaped by biology and environment.
You can reduce the violence by managing the conditions. Feed the lion well, and maybe it won’t attack — but the wiring doesn’t change. The moment scarcity returns, so does the instinct.
Same with humans. If we remove scarcity and fear, we suppress some of our worst behaviors. But we don’t "grow out" of them. Pretending we will is like expecting a lion to adopt vegetarianism because it's learned better morals.
Unless we somehow solve scarcity — which we likely won’t anytime soon — this behavior remains. That's the uncomfortable but honest truth.
I agree on the nature of, well, nature. In a civilization context, scarcity is often created artificially to exact an unfair advantage. The better armed faction will create scarcity upon it's rival. Thanks for the conversation. We all need to explore these concepts and spread this self-awareness.
Scarcity is only fake. Abrahamists have been talking about the "poor and needy" for thousands of years. It's a ploy to ensure that their greed can be justified. It's pure ignorance and bullshit to think there's not enough to go around. We just have to get the idiot Jew genociders and Capitalists to share.
we're still talking humans here though, and a certain point you start making choices, you chose not to see, that is an actual choice. You're almost starting to sound like it's noone's fault. Israeli's haven't lived in scarcity for quite a while now, and they have sub humans building their illegal houses at low wages with the stones they got from demolishing the sub humans houses, so to speak, you can't tell me that's not a choice
You’re trying to read too much into what’s written. Sometimes a red door is just a red door.
I’m not excusing anything—I’m just explaining why things happen. And here’s the uncomfortable truth: what we call “choice” is an illusion. Once the wave function collapses—once uncertainty resolves—the system becomes deterministic. From that point on, everything unfolds according to the variables in place. It’s like a pure function: if you feed in the same parameters, you’ll always get the same output. There’s no freedom in that—just the appearance of it, because we can’t process all the variables in real time.
Regarding scarcity—no country on Earth is post-scarcity, including Israel. Scarcity doesn’t just mean famine. It’s about inequality, control, and access. And that’s everywhere.
About your point on using “sub-humans” to build houses—what's the difference between that and actual, still-legal slavery in Mauritania? Or the slave auctions in Congo? Or the treatment of foreign workers in Gulf states building luxury towers or FIFA stadiums?
My point is: what Israel is doing is horrific—it's genocide, it's mass killing. But from the broader lens of human history and behavior, sadly... it's just Tuesday.
Scarcity is in your stupid little head. Most human societies in world history have no problem feeding, clothing and housing ALL of their people. Nature is abundant. Jews, Christians and Capitalists love to promote the idea of scarcity to justify their greed. Think it through. If we eradicate billionaires everyone in the world could easily live like a medieval king. Greed is the issue. The Scarcity is in your head. It takes the form of brainwashed ignorance. Wake up.
You’re mistaking ideology for physics. Scarcity isn’t a mental illness or a capitalist illusion—it’s a fundamental part of reality. Let’s start with the human side: not everyone has the same cognitive capacity. That’s not oppression, that’s biology. Some people process abstract thought faster, reason more deeply, adapt more flexibly. Others don’t. That’s cognitive scarcity—a limitation in mental bandwidth, decision-making, and problem-solving that exists whether or not money is involved. A society pretending everyone’s thinking ability is equal is lying to itself.
Then there's resource scarcity. Even in the most fair and well-designed system, you’re still dealing with limited physical resources. Land, time, food, clean water, energy—all of it has hard limits. Nature isn’t an infinite buffet. You can’t feed the planet’s population with free-range steak and solar power forever without burning through ecosystems. Distribution systems help—but they don’t create more mass or energy. That’s not capitalism talking, that’s just physics.
Take oil. It’s a textbook example of geopolitical scarcity. It’s not evenly distributed, it’s expensive to extract, and its supply chains are vulnerable to war, sanctions, and sabotage. Countries don’t fight over illusions—they fight over limited, high-value resources. That’s scarcity in action. Denying it doesn’t make it go away.
And look, I’m not saying unchecked capitalism is perfect—it clearly isn’t. But not every system built on markets is broken. I lived and studied in Denmark. It’s a functional example of a socialist-capitalist hybrid with progressive taxation, strong welfare, and market-driven innovation. It works not because it denies scarcity or human inequality—but because it acknowledges both and manages them.
Honestly, it seems like you think the United States is the whole world. News flash: it’s not. The world is a lot bigger, more diverse, and more nuanced than the American binary of “greedy billionaires vs. exploited masses.” There are dozens of models—Singapore, Switzerland, Sweden, Germany, Denmark—that prove it's not about denying scarcity or hating markets, it's about designing systems that adapt to reality instead of pretending it doesn’t exist.
So if you want to talk about greed, inequality, or better systems—let’s talk. But pretending scarcity is just “in your head”? That’s not a revolution, that’s just magical thinking.
Everyone has different intelligences and skills. Your standards here are arbitrary. Process abstract thought too slowly so you're scarce of intelligence? This is really stupid anti-logic, Marv. Your lacking brain cells doesn't mean that the planet can't feed everyone. Nature is abundant when respected. The problem is that Jews hate the natural world, and can't recognize their own mother in this regard.
Deeply embedded in Abrahamism, not really accurate for most of the world most of the time. Judeo-Christians are history's greatest genociders by tens of millions more dead than their next competitors. Learn the truth about history. Nobody has to behave like a Jew.
If we're talking strictly about religion and its role in atrocities, then let’s be honest—all major religions have been tied to violence at some point. Whether through conquest, forced conversions, inquisitions, or sectarian warfare, none of them are clean. So trying to single out one tradition as the worst is just selective outrage.
If you really want to look at it from a scale perspective, the logical approach would be to examine the dominant belief systems in the most populated regions. That leads us straight to Buddhism and Taoism/Confucianism across East and Southeast Asia. While those are often marketed as peaceful philosophies, they were deeply embedded in state control, hierarchy, and obedience. For centuries, these systems served as moral frameworks for authoritarian rule, long before communism took root.
Which brings us to the modern death toll. The worst atrocities of the 20th century came from Communist regimes, which were officially secular but still heavily influenced by the cultural DNA of their regions. Mao Zedong was responsible for 40 to 65 million deaths through policies like the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution. Stalin followed with about 20 million through purges, famines, and gulags. Lenin added another 5 to 6 million between executions, civil war, and manufactured famine. The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia killed 1.5 to 2 million in just a few years. And North Korea’s ongoing disasters have likely caused over a million deaths due to famine alone.
And just as a little binmot—so excuse the lack of surgical precision—the person who arguably bears responsibility for the most deaths in history might be Karl Marx. Not because he ever pulled a trigger, but because his ideas laid the ideological foundation for regimes that killed over 100 million people in under a century.
So if you want to talk about religion and atrocities, I’m more than willing to break it down piece by piece. But let’s keep it factual, consistent, and above all—logical. Otherwise, you’re not analyzing history—you’re just venting your bias.
BUT, let's not forget that Judeo-Christian Capitalism has killed tens of millions more innocents than any other ideology in world history. That's why Abrahamic Capitalists are the piggies people on the planet, obs.
The moral framework is people who were born there and are there now have basic human rights- including not being violently pushed out. Multigenerational claims are BS. And so unfortunately- settlement works. Han Chinese are settlers as well- its a Chinese colonial project. It’s full of wrong doing. The other issue here is who is paying aiding and abetting this- are their media outlets, academics and politicians, military, censorship and tax deductible donations in Europe and North America that supports what Russia or China is doing? Hardly. For Israel yes- so spare as the no Jews no news trope if that’s your next line.
You’re framing the issue around people being born in a place and therefore having rights to stay there. Applied consistently, this logic would extend to Israeli settlers born in those areas. Whether one agrees with the settlements or not, denying that symmetry exposes a selective application of principle—which makes it not a principle at all, but a bias.
What Israel is doing in Gaza is an ongoing genocide—defined both by the destruction of civilian infrastructure and the systematic targeting of a population under the framework of collective punishment. This doesn’t need exaggeration or historical analogies. It stands on its own as a modern atrocity.
And yet, Israel receives more UN resolutions than any other country. That’s a fact. But ongoing genocides—against the Uyghurs in China, the Rohingya in Myanmar, ethnic minorities in Western Sahara, and others—draw significantly less scrutiny. This isn’t a defense of Israel. It’s an indictment of selective outrage and the geopolitical convenience it serves.
I understand even pointing that out carries risk—some will interpret it as deflection. It’s not. Acknowledging asymmetry in global attention doesn’t erase any crimes; it reveals how outrage is manipulated, often to serve broader power structures.
That manipulation benefits states like Russia and China, who are more than happy to see Western credibility burn. The Palestinian cause has become a geopolitical pressure valve—and in that game, moral clarity is often sacrificed first.
I’m genuinely curious—what state do you believe still holds credibility in the international system?
Before anyone throws out examples like South Africa, let’s remember 2015, when they openly ignored an ICC warrant and refused to arrest Omar al-Bashir. That’s not a moral judgment—it’s just factual behavior. And I can dig up examples like this for any state you name. As Francesca Albanese said: there is no country that doesn’t violate international law in some form.
If you’re talking about consistent conduct on the world stage, probably the Nordic countries come closest—and they’re squarely part of “the West.”
At the end of the day, everyone wipes their ass with international law. So let’s stop pretending anyone has some kind of moral high ground.
The outrage - do UN General Assembly resolutions convey outrage? I think from some EU MPs we’ve seen outrage directed towards their peers and Israel. Or US congressman/senators against US support for Israel- there is no disagreement in the west on Chinas crimes; Russias infractions are being questioned by the public and by some politicians in the west.
I get it—you’re frustrated, and honestly, I understand. But let’s not pretend there’s no global outrage. This issue dominates headlines. There are lawsuits like the Hindi Rajab Foundation, constant UN discussions, street protests, statements from EU MPs and US congress members, journalists reporting daily—if that’s not outrage, I don’t know what is. If you’re hearing about something consistently at least twice a week, across months, from major institutions, then yeah, that’s a global outrage. Maybe it’s not the form you expect, but it’s real.
Now, to put things in broader context—not to relativize suffering in Gaza, but to offer some perspective—let's talk about Sudan. In the last 16 months, over 150,000 people have died, and more than 14 million have been displaced. There are documented genocidal acts, ethnic cleansing campaigns, mass sexual assaults, and even reports that women are forming death pacts to avoid capture, rape, and being burned alive by RSF forces. This is real. It’s happening. And yet it receives maybe 1% of the coverage Gaza does.
You know, the Nakba was an awful event—about 700,000 Palestinians were displaced, and roughly 10,000 died. But at the exact same time, between 12 to 14 million Germans were ethnically cleansed from Eastern Europe. Between 500,000 and 2 million of them died, and they were never even given the status of refugees. You probably never heard much about that.
Or Rwanda. Most people know about the 1994 genocide. But far fewer know what happened after: when the Tutsis returned, they played the UNO reverse card and massacred Hutus across Eastern Congo—some of the worst massacres in modern African history.
These aren’t outliers. These are normal chapters in human history.
That’s why it matters who gets to frame the narrative. The humanitarian salience of an event—how visible, how morally weighted, how talked-about it is—isn’t a reflection of the raw suffering. It’s a reflection of who is putting energy and resources into keeping it visible. That doesn’t mean it’s fake or manufactured—but it does mean there are many tragedies happening all the time, and only the ones someone fights for will be seen.
Well I would say Israeli’s born in the West Bank or Gaza or anywhere have a right to be there- the baby and children didn’t choose where they were born. How are they legitimately justly to be removed. I don’t know how anyone can work around that. Maybe the parents should lose their property rights if the land was stolen. My parents are settlers in Canada- I’m born in Canada- where do I have rights? Nobody absolves Russia and China of their crimes in western media academia government etc… and unfortunately we continue to do business with them. Because of all that official and institutional support for Israel it does warrant more attention from citizens and activists- it’s a tax deductible colonial project- you can take leave and serve in the IDF and return to your job in the US. As for UN resolutions- I don’t know- what do they mean? Security council vetoes insures they mean nothing if it goes against the official policy of a member.
You actually hit the nail on the head—this is the core of the problem: how to deal with consequences people are born into, without personal responsibility. My nihilistic take would be: “Probability is a bitch.” Which is true—but not helpful.
The issue is that our moral compass tends to operate in the world of abstract principles—Plato’s realm of ideal forms. That’s where we create these perfect, clean rules that work great in black-and-white scenarios. But reality isn’t black and white—it’s a thousand shades of gray, and worse, everyone sees a different shade.
That’s why I personally steer away from moral universalism and lean toward utilitarianism. It forces me to deal with the real, messy, imperfect world—not the curated world of ideas. It’s less elegant, but at least it’s grounded.
Black and white represent binary logic—true/false, 0/1. When I say “shades of gray,” I’m referring to a spectrum between those absolutes. It’s not about visual aesthetics or mood; it’s about recognizing nuance and complexity in systems that aren’t purely binary. Most real-world situations—especially in history, ethics, and human behavior—exist somewhere between 0 and 1.
"And if we zoom out: Our entire history is written in settlement and eradication of previous inhabitants. " This is pure propaganda bullshit. You need to Zoom out a little more, dude. The vast majority of human societies worldwide over the past 280, 000 years of human history have been egalitarian democracies in which everyone is clothed, fed, and sheltered. You have been blinded by your western Judeo-Christian prejudice and ignorance of human history. Jews want you to think genocide is the only way because it's the only way for Jews. You are an apologist for genocide when you push the pure bullshit line that this is how it's always been. That's what genociders want you to say. You help them out by spreading your non-truths. You're probably Jewish or Christian. Your Supremacism is showing in your propogation of ignorance. Zoom out for real, beyotch.
Interesting take, but let’s break this down calmly.
If you're claiming that for the majority of 280,000 years humans lived in peaceful, egalitarian democracies, you’ll need to provide solid anthropological evidence. From what we know through archaeology and recorded history—from ancient Mesopotamia, Egypt, Rome, Greece, to dynastic China and Mesoamerican empires—conflict, conquest, and inequality were recurring themes. Scarcity, tribalism, and competition were central to survival.
You accuse me of pushing "genocide logic," but I’m not defending any ideology—I’m pointing out historical patterns. History doesn’t care about your feelings or religion; it’s a record of power, survival, and systems evolving over time. If you claim that pre-agricultural or early human societies were different, fine—then cite your sources and hypotheses clearly.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm open to a deeper zoom-out if you're offering data, not just outrage.
This is ethnic cleansing and apartheid, plain and simple. The brown people must be erased. Only whites (Ashkenazi Jews in this case) deserve land and resources. White supremacy is a plague on humanity, has been for centuries. It must be fought tooth and nail!
White Supremacy is Abrahamic Supremacy which finds its source in the Torah. Jefferson calls Natives "new Canaanites" and ushers in the largest genocide in the world. Judaism kills.
Settlers that force displacement of established communities are terrorists, the fact that they are supported by the occupying state makes the state a terrorist state. Israel is clearly a terrorist state. The fact that they are not designated as such by the U.S. simply demonstrates the American racism that make Palestinians invisible.
The question of rights of those born on stolen land is a challenging one, but one that cannot even be addressed until the genocide ends. And it needs to end NOW. We cannot have any stability internationally when humanitarian laws are ignored and the extermination of a people is supported by many, too many Western nations, including our own.
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To know more about The Hind Rajab Foundation, there are a couple of really good interviews that Glenn Greenwald did on his Rumble platform, and Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada, did with the head of this organisation, Dyad Abou Jahjah. It was very informative.
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Let’s give them our support. Maybe they will expand their complaint to include this latest US administration, and include all the leaders of the western nations supporting this genocide.
you see this happening over and over again. "No other land" is basically about this, free palestine tv just dropped an interview with a lonely farmer as well, whose property is staked with Israeli flags and they just flatout tell him, if he touches the flags they'll cut off his hands.
I hate the word "settler" used by Zionist land thieves. It seems to be a word used for Zionist propaganda to make obvious terrorism sound nice to the Wests MSN.
Thank you Drop Site for exposing the lies of the Zionist Israeli parasites.
I think the term “settler” is used deliberately to frame it within the broader context of settler colonialism—drawing parallels with the U.S., Canada, or Australia. It’s not just propaganda—it’s a strategic choice meant to shape perception.
What I find odd is the inconsistency in applying that label. Why aren’t Han Chinese in Xinjiang called settlers? Or Azerbaijanis moving into Nagorno-Karabakh? Or Russians into Crimea? The language shifts depending on who’s “in the wrong” based on someone’s moral framework.
That’s the part that bothers me. The terminology becomes a weapon, not a description—and its usage ends up being more about subjective judgment than objective categorization.
And if we zoom out: our entire human history is written in settlement and eradication of previous inhabitants. Even the Arabs in the Levant—Palestine included—were settlers at one point, who either eradicated or subjugated whoever was there before them. So now, because we wrote some toothless international law 60 years ago that barely anyone respects, we suddenly expect to override deeply embedded Homo sapiens behavior patterns? That’s wishful thinking at best.
I agree. It may be deeply embedded behavior, but we can do better. We should still try to expose and shame those who perpetuate violence in the name of colonialism. Call out the propaganda for what it is.
Yes, calling out propaganda and pointing out patterns of violence is absolutely valid — but we may have different expectations about human nature.
I don’t believe we can "do better" in the sense of fundamentally changing who we are. We're just animals with more complex neural wiring. If you put a hungry lion next to a zebra, it will try to eat it. That’s not cruelty — that’s behavior shaped by biology and environment.
You can reduce the violence by managing the conditions. Feed the lion well, and maybe it won’t attack — but the wiring doesn’t change. The moment scarcity returns, so does the instinct.
Same with humans. If we remove scarcity and fear, we suppress some of our worst behaviors. But we don’t "grow out" of them. Pretending we will is like expecting a lion to adopt vegetarianism because it's learned better morals.
Unless we somehow solve scarcity — which we likely won’t anytime soon — this behavior remains. That's the uncomfortable but honest truth.
I agree on the nature of, well, nature. In a civilization context, scarcity is often created artificially to exact an unfair advantage. The better armed faction will create scarcity upon it's rival. Thanks for the conversation. We all need to explore these concepts and spread this self-awareness.
Scarcity is only fake. Abrahamists have been talking about the "poor and needy" for thousands of years. It's a ploy to ensure that their greed can be justified. It's pure ignorance and bullshit to think there's not enough to go around. We just have to get the idiot Jew genociders and Capitalists to share.
we're still talking humans here though, and a certain point you start making choices, you chose not to see, that is an actual choice. You're almost starting to sound like it's noone's fault. Israeli's haven't lived in scarcity for quite a while now, and they have sub humans building their illegal houses at low wages with the stones they got from demolishing the sub humans houses, so to speak, you can't tell me that's not a choice
You’re trying to read too much into what’s written. Sometimes a red door is just a red door.
I’m not excusing anything—I’m just explaining why things happen. And here’s the uncomfortable truth: what we call “choice” is an illusion. Once the wave function collapses—once uncertainty resolves—the system becomes deterministic. From that point on, everything unfolds according to the variables in place. It’s like a pure function: if you feed in the same parameters, you’ll always get the same output. There’s no freedom in that—just the appearance of it, because we can’t process all the variables in real time.
Regarding scarcity—no country on Earth is post-scarcity, including Israel. Scarcity doesn’t just mean famine. It’s about inequality, control, and access. And that’s everywhere.
About your point on using “sub-humans” to build houses—what's the difference between that and actual, still-legal slavery in Mauritania? Or the slave auctions in Congo? Or the treatment of foreign workers in Gulf states building luxury towers or FIFA stadiums?
My point is: what Israel is doing is horrific—it's genocide, it's mass killing. But from the broader lens of human history and behavior, sadly... it's just Tuesday.
All of the earth is abundant. Scarcity is a purely human fabrication. Wake up!
Scarcity is in your stupid little head. Most human societies in world history have no problem feeding, clothing and housing ALL of their people. Nature is abundant. Jews, Christians and Capitalists love to promote the idea of scarcity to justify their greed. Think it through. If we eradicate billionaires everyone in the world could easily live like a medieval king. Greed is the issue. The Scarcity is in your head. It takes the form of brainwashed ignorance. Wake up.
You’re mistaking ideology for physics. Scarcity isn’t a mental illness or a capitalist illusion—it’s a fundamental part of reality. Let’s start with the human side: not everyone has the same cognitive capacity. That’s not oppression, that’s biology. Some people process abstract thought faster, reason more deeply, adapt more flexibly. Others don’t. That’s cognitive scarcity—a limitation in mental bandwidth, decision-making, and problem-solving that exists whether or not money is involved. A society pretending everyone’s thinking ability is equal is lying to itself.
Then there's resource scarcity. Even in the most fair and well-designed system, you’re still dealing with limited physical resources. Land, time, food, clean water, energy—all of it has hard limits. Nature isn’t an infinite buffet. You can’t feed the planet’s population with free-range steak and solar power forever without burning through ecosystems. Distribution systems help—but they don’t create more mass or energy. That’s not capitalism talking, that’s just physics.
Take oil. It’s a textbook example of geopolitical scarcity. It’s not evenly distributed, it’s expensive to extract, and its supply chains are vulnerable to war, sanctions, and sabotage. Countries don’t fight over illusions—they fight over limited, high-value resources. That’s scarcity in action. Denying it doesn’t make it go away.
And look, I’m not saying unchecked capitalism is perfect—it clearly isn’t. But not every system built on markets is broken. I lived and studied in Denmark. It’s a functional example of a socialist-capitalist hybrid with progressive taxation, strong welfare, and market-driven innovation. It works not because it denies scarcity or human inequality—but because it acknowledges both and manages them.
Honestly, it seems like you think the United States is the whole world. News flash: it’s not. The world is a lot bigger, more diverse, and more nuanced than the American binary of “greedy billionaires vs. exploited masses.” There are dozens of models—Singapore, Switzerland, Sweden, Germany, Denmark—that prove it's not about denying scarcity or hating markets, it's about designing systems that adapt to reality instead of pretending it doesn’t exist.
So if you want to talk about greed, inequality, or better systems—let’s talk. But pretending scarcity is just “in your head”? That’s not a revolution, that’s just magical thinking.
Everyone has different intelligences and skills. Your standards here are arbitrary. Process abstract thought too slowly so you're scarce of intelligence? This is really stupid anti-logic, Marv. Your lacking brain cells doesn't mean that the planet can't feed everyone. Nature is abundant when respected. The problem is that Jews hate the natural world, and can't recognize their own mother in this regard.
Deeply embedded in Abrahamism, not really accurate for most of the world most of the time. Judeo-Christians are history's greatest genociders by tens of millions more dead than their next competitors. Learn the truth about history. Nobody has to behave like a Jew.
If we're talking strictly about religion and its role in atrocities, then let’s be honest—all major religions have been tied to violence at some point. Whether through conquest, forced conversions, inquisitions, or sectarian warfare, none of them are clean. So trying to single out one tradition as the worst is just selective outrage.
If you really want to look at it from a scale perspective, the logical approach would be to examine the dominant belief systems in the most populated regions. That leads us straight to Buddhism and Taoism/Confucianism across East and Southeast Asia. While those are often marketed as peaceful philosophies, they were deeply embedded in state control, hierarchy, and obedience. For centuries, these systems served as moral frameworks for authoritarian rule, long before communism took root.
Which brings us to the modern death toll. The worst atrocities of the 20th century came from Communist regimes, which were officially secular but still heavily influenced by the cultural DNA of their regions. Mao Zedong was responsible for 40 to 65 million deaths through policies like the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution. Stalin followed with about 20 million through purges, famines, and gulags. Lenin added another 5 to 6 million between executions, civil war, and manufactured famine. The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia killed 1.5 to 2 million in just a few years. And North Korea’s ongoing disasters have likely caused over a million deaths due to famine alone.
And just as a little binmot—so excuse the lack of surgical precision—the person who arguably bears responsibility for the most deaths in history might be Karl Marx. Not because he ever pulled a trigger, but because his ideas laid the ideological foundation for regimes that killed over 100 million people in under a century.
So if you want to talk about religion and atrocities, I’m more than willing to break it down piece by piece. But let’s keep it factual, consistent, and above all—logical. Otherwise, you’re not analyzing history—you’re just venting your bias.
BUT, let's not forget that Judeo-Christian Capitalism has killed tens of millions more innocents than any other ideology in world history. That's why Abrahamic Capitalists are the piggies people on the planet, obs.
All religions Marvin? .That's an extreme exaggeration. More inaccurate information from not so marvelous Marv.
The moral framework is people who were born there and are there now have basic human rights- including not being violently pushed out. Multigenerational claims are BS. And so unfortunately- settlement works. Han Chinese are settlers as well- its a Chinese colonial project. It’s full of wrong doing. The other issue here is who is paying aiding and abetting this- are their media outlets, academics and politicians, military, censorship and tax deductible donations in Europe and North America that supports what Russia or China is doing? Hardly. For Israel yes- so spare as the no Jews no news trope if that’s your next line.
You’re framing the issue around people being born in a place and therefore having rights to stay there. Applied consistently, this logic would extend to Israeli settlers born in those areas. Whether one agrees with the settlements or not, denying that symmetry exposes a selective application of principle—which makes it not a principle at all, but a bias.
What Israel is doing in Gaza is an ongoing genocide—defined both by the destruction of civilian infrastructure and the systematic targeting of a population under the framework of collective punishment. This doesn’t need exaggeration or historical analogies. It stands on its own as a modern atrocity.
And yet, Israel receives more UN resolutions than any other country. That’s a fact. But ongoing genocides—against the Uyghurs in China, the Rohingya in Myanmar, ethnic minorities in Western Sahara, and others—draw significantly less scrutiny. This isn’t a defense of Israel. It’s an indictment of selective outrage and the geopolitical convenience it serves.
I understand even pointing that out carries risk—some will interpret it as deflection. It’s not. Acknowledging asymmetry in global attention doesn’t erase any crimes; it reveals how outrage is manipulated, often to serve broader power structures.
That manipulation benefits states like Russia and China, who are more than happy to see Western credibility burn. The Palestinian cause has become a geopolitical pressure valve—and in that game, moral clarity is often sacrificed first.
Westerners have done a fine job burning their own credibility- after Gaza - we have zero.
The Abrahamic Capitalist paradigm is done. We need to eradicate all Abrahamic and Capitalist being if we want humanity to survive global warming.
I’m genuinely curious—what state do you believe still holds credibility in the international system?
Before anyone throws out examples like South Africa, let’s remember 2015, when they openly ignored an ICC warrant and refused to arrest Omar al-Bashir. That’s not a moral judgment—it’s just factual behavior. And I can dig up examples like this for any state you name. As Francesca Albanese said: there is no country that doesn’t violate international law in some form.
If you’re talking about consistent conduct on the world stage, probably the Nordic countries come closest—and they’re squarely part of “the West.”
At the end of the day, everyone wipes their ass with international law. So let’s stop pretending anyone has some kind of moral high ground.
Nation States are a shitty idea. Imagine there're no countries. It's easy if you try.
The outrage - do UN General Assembly resolutions convey outrage? I think from some EU MPs we’ve seen outrage directed towards their peers and Israel. Or US congressman/senators against US support for Israel- there is no disagreement in the west on Chinas crimes; Russias infractions are being questioned by the public and by some politicians in the west.
I get it—you’re frustrated, and honestly, I understand. But let’s not pretend there’s no global outrage. This issue dominates headlines. There are lawsuits like the Hindi Rajab Foundation, constant UN discussions, street protests, statements from EU MPs and US congress members, journalists reporting daily—if that’s not outrage, I don’t know what is. If you’re hearing about something consistently at least twice a week, across months, from major institutions, then yeah, that’s a global outrage. Maybe it’s not the form you expect, but it’s real.
Now, to put things in broader context—not to relativize suffering in Gaza, but to offer some perspective—let's talk about Sudan. In the last 16 months, over 150,000 people have died, and more than 14 million have been displaced. There are documented genocidal acts, ethnic cleansing campaigns, mass sexual assaults, and even reports that women are forming death pacts to avoid capture, rape, and being burned alive by RSF forces. This is real. It’s happening. And yet it receives maybe 1% of the coverage Gaza does.
You know, the Nakba was an awful event—about 700,000 Palestinians were displaced, and roughly 10,000 died. But at the exact same time, between 12 to 14 million Germans were ethnically cleansed from Eastern Europe. Between 500,000 and 2 million of them died, and they were never even given the status of refugees. You probably never heard much about that.
Or Rwanda. Most people know about the 1994 genocide. But far fewer know what happened after: when the Tutsis returned, they played the UNO reverse card and massacred Hutus across Eastern Congo—some of the worst massacres in modern African history.
These aren’t outliers. These are normal chapters in human history.
That’s why it matters who gets to frame the narrative. The humanitarian salience of an event—how visible, how morally weighted, how talked-about it is—isn’t a reflection of the raw suffering. It’s a reflection of who is putting energy and resources into keeping it visible. That doesn’t mean it’s fake or manufactured—but it does mean there are many tragedies happening all the time, and only the ones someone fights for will be seen.
Well I would say Israeli’s born in the West Bank or Gaza or anywhere have a right to be there- the baby and children didn’t choose where they were born. How are they legitimately justly to be removed. I don’t know how anyone can work around that. Maybe the parents should lose their property rights if the land was stolen. My parents are settlers in Canada- I’m born in Canada- where do I have rights? Nobody absolves Russia and China of their crimes in western media academia government etc… and unfortunately we continue to do business with them. Because of all that official and institutional support for Israel it does warrant more attention from citizens and activists- it’s a tax deductible colonial project- you can take leave and serve in the IDF and return to your job in the US. As for UN resolutions- I don’t know- what do they mean? Security council vetoes insures they mean nothing if it goes against the official policy of a member.
We are all indigenous to the earth and have to learn to share. Jews suck at sharing, obs. Because Judaism is a vile form of ethnic supremacy, obs.
You actually hit the nail on the head—this is the core of the problem: how to deal with consequences people are born into, without personal responsibility. My nihilistic take would be: “Probability is a bitch.” Which is true—but not helpful.
The issue is that our moral compass tends to operate in the world of abstract principles—Plato’s realm of ideal forms. That’s where we create these perfect, clean rules that work great in black-and-white scenarios. But reality isn’t black and white—it’s a thousand shades of gray, and worse, everyone sees a different shade.
That’s why I personally steer away from moral universalism and lean toward utilitarianism. It forces me to deal with the real, messy, imperfect world—not the curated world of ideas. It’s less elegant, but at least it’s grounded.
Fuck the shades of grey crap. The world is full of colors, dummy. Do you only dream in black and white and grey. How depressing.
Black and white represent binary logic—true/false, 0/1. When I say “shades of gray,” I’m referring to a spectrum between those absolutes. It’s not about visual aesthetics or mood; it’s about recognizing nuance and complexity in systems that aren’t purely binary. Most real-world situations—especially in history, ethics, and human behavior—exist somewhere between 0 and 1.
Judaism is foul ethnic supremacy. Study the shitty screed they call the Torah. See Dueteronomy 12:2.
"And if we zoom out: Our entire history is written in settlement and eradication of previous inhabitants. " This is pure propaganda bullshit. You need to Zoom out a little more, dude. The vast majority of human societies worldwide over the past 280, 000 years of human history have been egalitarian democracies in which everyone is clothed, fed, and sheltered. You have been blinded by your western Judeo-Christian prejudice and ignorance of human history. Jews want you to think genocide is the only way because it's the only way for Jews. You are an apologist for genocide when you push the pure bullshit line that this is how it's always been. That's what genociders want you to say. You help them out by spreading your non-truths. You're probably Jewish or Christian. Your Supremacism is showing in your propogation of ignorance. Zoom out for real, beyotch.
Interesting take, but let’s break this down calmly.
If you're claiming that for the majority of 280,000 years humans lived in peaceful, egalitarian democracies, you’ll need to provide solid anthropological evidence. From what we know through archaeology and recorded history—from ancient Mesopotamia, Egypt, Rome, Greece, to dynastic China and Mesoamerican empires—conflict, conquest, and inequality were recurring themes. Scarcity, tribalism, and competition were central to survival.
You accuse me of pushing "genocide logic," but I’m not defending any ideology—I’m pointing out historical patterns. History doesn’t care about your feelings or religion; it’s a record of power, survival, and systems evolving over time. If you claim that pre-agricultural or early human societies were different, fine—then cite your sources and hypotheses clearly.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm open to a deeper zoom-out if you're offering data, not just outrage.
This is ethnic cleansing and apartheid, plain and simple. The brown people must be erased. Only whites (Ashkenazi Jews in this case) deserve land and resources. White supremacy is a plague on humanity, has been for centuries. It must be fought tooth and nail!
White Supremacy is Abrahamic Supremacy which finds its source in the Torah. Jefferson calls Natives "new Canaanites" and ushers in the largest genocide in the world. Judaism kills.
Genocide done slowly is still Genocide!
Settlers that force displacement of established communities are terrorists, the fact that they are supported by the occupying state makes the state a terrorist state. Israel is clearly a terrorist state. The fact that they are not designated as such by the U.S. simply demonstrates the American racism that make Palestinians invisible.
The question of rights of those born on stolen land is a challenging one, but one that cannot even be addressed until the genocide ends. And it needs to end NOW. We cannot have any stability internationally when humanitarian laws are ignored and the extermination of a people is supported by many, too many Western nations, including our own.
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If the international institutions have any meaning, and it is questionable for how long, we cannot allow Israel to escape the legal consequences of their war crimes. The Hind Rajab Foundation has, among other things, filed a case with the ICC against 1,000 Israeli soldiers for war crimes in Gaza.
https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/perpetrators/hind-rajab-foundation-files-historic-icc-complaint-against-1000-israeli-soldiers-for-war-crimes-in-gaza
They have taken further steps in recent days, and vacations are becoming a lot more difficult for IDF soldiers, worldwide. The Hind Rajab Foundation can use our help. Please join me in making a contribution.
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To know more about The Hind Rajab Foundation, there are a couple of really good interviews that Glenn Greenwald did on his Rumble platform, and Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada, did with the head of this organisation, Dyad Abou Jahjah. It was very informative.
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Petition for the immediate release of Mahmoud Khalil.
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DAWN has urged the ICC prosecutor to investigate and prosecute former President Biden, State Secretary Blinken and Defense Secretary Austin for their personal roles in aiding and abetting Israeli war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide in Gaza as part of his ongoing investigation into the situations in Palestine since 2014.
https://dawnmena.org/latest/
Let’s give them our support. Maybe they will expand their complaint to include this latest US administration, and include all the leaders of the western nations supporting this genocide.