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"They didn't just read Sayyid Qutb. They didn't just read Hassan al-Banna. They read Lenin, they read Jean-Paul Sartre, they read Fyodor Dostoevsky."

I recall how the Viet Cong avidly studied American literature in the trenches and the tunnels.

I don't see any American policy makers reading Sayyid Qutb.

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this was quite common among most arab nationalists across the region in the 50s-70s. there were a lot socialist/communists groups across the region and they were targetted by (usually "religious") groups backed by the cia.

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This is an extraordinary conversation — so many important complex insights. And my favorite.: the problem is not Jews. the problem is Zionists/Zionism!!

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I hate to say, "duh", but this simple and obvious observation is still lost on a tragically large number of people.

One only need ask the descendants of Palestinian Jews how their parents and grandparents were treated when the European colonists arrived- understanding that many European Jews who migrated to Palestine after WWII were shell-shocked and at extremes of suffering themselves. The ideological game plan of Zionism never had any compassionate or inclusive ideas for the indigenes, only expulsion or subjugation.

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absolutely. i would just like to add (expanding on something he touches on briefly in the interview) that the notion that antisemitism has existed everywhere and throughout time is itself a very eurocentric view. jews have escaped europe and seeked refuge in china, africa, and all across the middle east for centuries now. the ottomon empire sent their navy to bring hundreds of thousands of jews to the middle east during the spanish inquisition. its absolutely ahistorical, and typically racists, to place antisemitism on the whole world when it is always been white european self-proclaimed christians that have been the antisemites.

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The Doctrine of Discovery - late 1400s. Has become our legal system world wide. The roots of capitalism with its concurrent need for slavery, racism & extraction to feed the settler-colonial imperial projects that went global. Syracuse University's gift to us:

https://indigenousvalues.org/doctrine-of-christian-discovery-podcast/

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And my favorite, Zillah, --It's also true that while not all Jews are Zionists, all the Zionists in Israel are definitely Jews....so they are INVOLVED!

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Excellent journalism to bring into light important views of Palestinian resistance on how they see the evolving situation.. we love you Jeremy

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Fantastic, important conversation!!! So many wonderful insights. First story I read as a sub (came over from bp!). Keep up the amazing journalism!!!

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To paraphrase JFK, when peaceful resistance is impossible, violent resistance is inevitable. There are too many settlements and the settlers won’t give up the land stolen from the Palestinians, so there can be no two state solution. S. Africa is the model, but all I see for now is more bloodshed and suffering.

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Thank you for your interview with Al Hindi. I hope a lot of people can read it and gain an understanding of the resistance movements in Palestine.

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Mohammed Al-Hindi I thank you... Drope Site.. thank you.

Mr. Scahill you hit a home run with this interview.

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I'm so grateful to Dr. Al-Hindi for helping me finally take the phrase "two-state solution" out of my mouth. How often do we parrot that phrase in the West? And his utter practicality in saying it means absolutely nothing when the agreement of 31 years ago has been ignored and trampled by Israeli settlement crimes and oppressive security controls really helps me get my head right. Thank you for this interview.

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Leaving aside Sayyid Qutb, I'd be surprised if American policy makers have ever read anything by Naguib Mahfouz! Frankly, if the past thirty years are any indication, I can only conclude that foreign policy has been made by people who are rabid Arab-haters. I can think of no other explanation.

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Mohammed Al-Hindi is a truly impressive human being. A deeply thoughtful, insightful man. Jeremy, thank you for this outstanding interview.

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I believe the interest of both Biden and Trump are similar. However with all the theatrics and out right lying by Trump it is clearer

His interest is primarily on himself. After all, Sheldon Adelson bankrolled 20 million from his super-pac to move the Us Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem . That was no accident !

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Wow! Thank you. I guess this coverage is an example of bold reporting you might not be able to have done at the Intercept? Interviewing a named-by-us terrorist. So appreciate the detail of this conversation. Really helps give us history n context for how these conflicts arise and are fed. The dominators calling the heretics 'terrorists' is a great way to sideline/dismiss them, and a manufactured reason to escalate all armed aggressions. Which of course feeds/stokes the fires of the US/world economy via the military industrial complex. Peace with Justice and Right Relationship...

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