Twenty-nine percent of non-voters who supported Biden in 2020 said U.S. support for the genocide was the top reason they sat the 2024 election, according to a survey by YouGov.
I'm one of the voters whose sole reason for sitting this one out was our genocide. Had Harris even hinted that she would respect the Leahy restrictions on military aid to Israel, she could have had my vote. But, given the choice between genocide and fascism, I refused to vote for either one.
I voted for Stein as well. I wore a sign at the polling station recommending her and was denounced by Democrats telling me I was electing Trump. That crazy idea that voting for someone is really voting for someone else shows contempt for democracy.
She couldn't "break" with Biden (though I asked her too repeatedly) because she is right there with Biden on this issue, as are most of the politicians in this country. Blame AIPAC and the weapons manufacturers. And a long, long history of militarism and thinking that violent lethal force solves the world's problems and creates security.
The arms manufacturers and others that support the military industrial complex have been making a killing off of Israeli aggression. They’re spread out across the country, making it politically difficult for any politician to oppose, as that would mean a loss of income for their state and a loss of jobs. Just look at our budget. The US would rather fund war than peace. Cutting military spending is considered unpatriotic. The US is good at only three things: wreaking death and destruction around the world, turning young people into disabled veterans and creating low wage, no benefit jobs.
I suppose that as time goes by, we will hear more and more about the “reasons” for the Harris failure. But here is a perspective that no one has yet addressed: the myopia of the American voter.
We have heard over and over about how a large swath of voters wanted someone other than Biden and Trump – what the duopoly was offering. Dems had one more chance for something better but failed. Instead, they “gifted” us with Kamala Harris (backed up by Liz Cheney, Whoopi Goldberg, and Tony West). But in 2024 there were two massive elephants in the room: Gaza and Ukraine. Murder, genocide, and a war that has killed more than a half-million people. The blame for BOTH these ongoing atrocities falls squarely at the feet of America. As a life-long Democrat, I voted for Jill Stein because she spoke directly to these issues, and several others that should have resonated with many Americans. And she got about 1% of the popular vote. This should tell you one thing: Americans have their heads up their asses and don’t care about what is happening on Planet Earth. Either that, or Americans are so self-centered and callus that a meaningful discussion about voter motives is a waste of time. So, we get the government we deserve. Blather-on all you like; until Americans extricate themselves from where the Sun don’t shine, it doesn’t mean squat.
That's the goal, take the public's mind off the root problems by obscuring them. (Thanks mainstream media). It is critical that the public has no idea of what the government is doing. Let's send billions to a country that already has universal healthcare. When Ukraine was ready to negociate with Russia, Biden sends Boris Johnson to stop that.
I remember the calls for "No Trillion Dollar Debt" Currently, just the interest on our debt exceeds 1 trillion dollars annually. Right before the election someone commented that Harris would loose because the Democrats didn't give their voters what they wanted, they gave then what the thought they could stomach. The American public has a long fuse but it is not infinitely long. At least I sure hope it isn't.
Their cartel parties operatives seem to care more about the price of their stocks than the prices rank and file voters are paying for medical care, housing or groceries. The operatives of BOTH parties are on the same page in this regard.
This affliction should be given a name. I suggest: The Hillary Clinton Syndrome. After all she and the democratic party have yet to accept any responsibility for 2016. Adding the Libyan Viagra BS, makes this name a slam-dunk.
"Americans have their heads up their asses and don’t care about what is happening on Planet Earth"
It is true of too many and as is clear from the complete grip of Zionism on our government that change can only come from below, from we the people finding and electing some of us to change things. The Justice Democrats are doing this very thing, seeking out political nobodies such as was AOC, to oust the entrenched in Congress. What a long process this will be but it must be done.
Also, regarding what I quoted from your comment, Trump says in the face of all the scientific and statistical evidence that global warming is a hoax and the we should exploit even more fossil fuel. Today I saw that proposed wind farms for off Atlantic coast are to be nixed. This is irrationality on stilts and we have the guy for four years with the world already warming; 2024 now established as the warmest year on record with 2023 right behind it.
While I totally understand the sentiment of withholding in your vote because of Gaza it is ultimately foolish virtue signaling, especially in a swing state. With a Harris win there was a sliver of hope but Trump is a big fan of Netanyahu and no doubt wants to get in on the building boom on the new Gaza waterfront. This is not to mention all the other horrors that will come from Trump round 2. It is a very odd way to punish the Democrats.
Our elections have been compromised for several reasons for decades - shall I list the ways: the electoral college, gerrymandering, corporate donations , lobbyists, and the 90 million Americans who didn’t vote. And all of our presidents since I’ve been voting (senior citizen here 😊) have committed genocide. None that we have watched on our phones though. And we really don’t know if there was a problem with this election. Like Starlink maybe? It didn’t matter who was elected. But it would have made a difference in benefits for the working class. Not to my satisfaction, but not the shit show we will see for domestic policies for the next 4 years. Just sayin….
People just bought into the Trump narrative of an anti-war candidate because the alternative was Kamala or Joe. I mean, any sane American with a beating heart could see right through the bullshit fed through the neoliberals in a blue capsule. The political system in the USofA is rotten and requires reforms in the shape of "get lobbying money" out of Washington.
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, people aren't enthusiastic about voting for someone who is funding the indiscriminate slaughter of children abroad rather than fixing our own deeply broken nation.
...and did not meet with Palestinians and people of Arab affiliation in Michigan or insist upon allowing the Palestinian delegation to speak at the convention
Since the outcome of the election was announced, in pretty much every casual interaction with non MAGA folks I’ve engaged with, they have all had a take on the loss as being to something other than the genocide. Misogyny the top choice. When I would mention that genocide was a moral decision impossible for many to support, they would get angry. Now when the conversation comes up, I get an elbow and a look from my wife that says, “Don’t go there.” I am grateful for this survey and DropSite covering the results. Should have been obvious.
I'm a bit baffled by this article and what is left out. I remember well Kamala's first response when asked if she would have done anything differently than Biden and she said she would have done NOTHING differently. And she was on AIPAC's payroll. Her husband, Doug Emhoff, was a total Zionist and in reading Biden's Executive Orders (below), as Second Gentleman he was appointed to one of the committees to combat Antisemitism. They were pro-Zionist to the hilt! She could not possibly have broken with Biden and would have continued the same genocidal policies.
if anything has fueled antisemitism, it's people aligning with or ignoring israel's murderous genocide designed to steal ALL of Palestine at last. Biden could not have been more two-faced.
I read the article, but I didn't get that HIV meds are being targeted to be blocked? Aren't Gazans being deprived of Rx meds in general, just as they are deprived of food, water, and almost everything else?
You are right, but if there is anything that those trumpeting a rise of antisemitism in the US do routinely, it is avoiding all mention of Israel as having anything to do with it. This is an attempt to take eyes off of Israel and make believe that this supposed increase in antisemitism is nothing but pure evil and we should think of the Nazis, not of Netanyahu and the IDF. There is a term for this technique of distraction from the real cause by blaming something else - it is called producing a red herring.
The topper in all this is Netanyahu's claim that the US today is similar to what was happening in Germany in 1938!!!!
these non voters could have voted for a peace, 3rd party candidate but they didn't. Pleasse comment on that on your next post. You assert the duoploy ain't working but stronger 3rd parties could at least have gotten to the stage and articulate their postions next election cycle if more votes were cast their way. But the system is so broke getting on the podium and expressing their positions takes herculean endurace and $$$$ too fight off court rooms battles and state house bureaucracy. our system is so broke our democracy in shambles
As a lifelong Democrat, last November was the first time I sat the presidential election out -- primarily because my party financed the murderous ethnic cleansing war in Gaza.
But truth be told, Kamala Harris was a terrible candidate, and even if she said she would cut off U.S. funding of the war, I likely would have abstained from voting. She seemed vacuous and expressed no vision for the country, except to say she wasn't Trump. I couldn't vote for Trump either because he's an odious man in a million ways.
The Democrats ought to have a soul-searching, stop funding wars, support free speech, stop demonizing people who disagree, and find a younger, more visionary candidate for our time -- a candidate who is not ideological, but simply driven by what's good for the nation.
The proof that Trump has no mandate is that he was elected by only 27% of the electorate. Only about half of the electorate voted at all whereas in a typical presidential election year the percentage of the electorate that votes is 60%
After years of Russiagate bs, fascist censorship of a sitting president, using the IC to rig the 2020 election by lying about the Hunter laptop, using lawfare to eliminate every political opponent they could, not to mention 2 bs impeachments, using fascist censorship of social media to hide scamdemic vaccine lies, funding and arming of actual Ukrainian Nazis, or straight up sponsoring the genocide in Gaza - I was never going to vote Democrat in my life again, anyway. Piss on 'em forever.
That said, there no way I was going to vote for any candidate with his head up Israel's ass and whose VP wants war with Iran, either. They've forever been warpig neocons and so I've never voted Republican. I was a registered Libertarian in the 80s and 90s, otherwise unaffiliated.
My 2024 vote for US President was a write-in for a Russian citizen - born in the US. I wrote in Edward Joseph Snowden because he has more oath-integrity than anyone else I know, willing to sacrifice his personal freedom to protect constitutional freedoms of others.
President Trump, you really should pardon Edward Snowden and Julian Assange.
The obscure we see eventually. The completely obvious, it seems, takes longer. - Edward R. Murrow
I'm one of the voters whose sole reason for sitting this one out was our genocide. Had Harris even hinted that she would respect the Leahy restrictions on military aid to Israel, she could have had my vote. But, given the choice between genocide and fascism, I refused to vote for either one.
I voted for Jill Stein
I voted for Stein as well. I wore a sign at the polling station recommending her and was denounced by Democrats telling me I was electing Trump. That crazy idea that voting for someone is really voting for someone else shows contempt for democracy.
She couldn't "break" with Biden (though I asked her too repeatedly) because she is right there with Biden on this issue, as are most of the politicians in this country. Blame AIPAC and the weapons manufacturers. And a long, long history of militarism and thinking that violent lethal force solves the world's problems and creates security.
The arms manufacturers and others that support the military industrial complex have been making a killing off of Israeli aggression. They’re spread out across the country, making it politically difficult for any politician to oppose, as that would mean a loss of income for their state and a loss of jobs. Just look at our budget. The US would rather fund war than peace. Cutting military spending is considered unpatriotic. The US is good at only three things: wreaking death and destruction around the world, turning young people into disabled veterans and creating low wage, no benefit jobs.
I suppose that as time goes by, we will hear more and more about the “reasons” for the Harris failure. But here is a perspective that no one has yet addressed: the myopia of the American voter.
We have heard over and over about how a large swath of voters wanted someone other than Biden and Trump – what the duopoly was offering. Dems had one more chance for something better but failed. Instead, they “gifted” us with Kamala Harris (backed up by Liz Cheney, Whoopi Goldberg, and Tony West). But in 2024 there were two massive elephants in the room: Gaza and Ukraine. Murder, genocide, and a war that has killed more than a half-million people. The blame for BOTH these ongoing atrocities falls squarely at the feet of America. As a life-long Democrat, I voted for Jill Stein because she spoke directly to these issues, and several others that should have resonated with many Americans. And she got about 1% of the popular vote. This should tell you one thing: Americans have their heads up their asses and don’t care about what is happening on Planet Earth. Either that, or Americans are so self-centered and callus that a meaningful discussion about voter motives is a waste of time. So, we get the government we deserve. Blather-on all you like; until Americans extricate themselves from where the Sun don’t shine, it doesn’t mean squat.
Excellent, you said it! Americans seem to care more about the prices at Costco and Walmart, and the cheap shit they can buy.
That's the goal, take the public's mind off the root problems by obscuring them. (Thanks mainstream media). It is critical that the public has no idea of what the government is doing. Let's send billions to a country that already has universal healthcare. When Ukraine was ready to negociate with Russia, Biden sends Boris Johnson to stop that.
I remember the calls for "No Trillion Dollar Debt" Currently, just the interest on our debt exceeds 1 trillion dollars annually. Right before the election someone commented that Harris would loose because the Democrats didn't give their voters what they wanted, they gave then what the thought they could stomach. The American public has a long fuse but it is not infinitely long. At least I sure hope it isn't.
Their cartel parties operatives seem to care more about the price of their stocks than the prices rank and file voters are paying for medical care, housing or groceries. The operatives of BOTH parties are on the same page in this regard.
This affliction should be given a name. I suggest: The Hillary Clinton Syndrome. After all she and the democratic party have yet to accept any responsibility for 2016. Adding the Libyan Viagra BS, makes this name a slam-dunk.
"Americans have their heads up their asses and don’t care about what is happening on Planet Earth"
It is true of too many and as is clear from the complete grip of Zionism on our government that change can only come from below, from we the people finding and electing some of us to change things. The Justice Democrats are doing this very thing, seeking out political nobodies such as was AOC, to oust the entrenched in Congress. What a long process this will be but it must be done.
Also, regarding what I quoted from your comment, Trump says in the face of all the scientific and statistical evidence that global warming is a hoax and the we should exploit even more fossil fuel. Today I saw that proposed wind farms for off Atlantic coast are to be nixed. This is irrationality on stilts and we have the guy for four years with the world already warming; 2024 now established as the warmest year on record with 2023 right behind it.
While I totally understand the sentiment of withholding in your vote because of Gaza it is ultimately foolish virtue signaling, especially in a swing state. With a Harris win there was a sliver of hope but Trump is a big fan of Netanyahu and no doubt wants to get in on the building boom on the new Gaza waterfront. This is not to mention all the other horrors that will come from Trump round 2. It is a very odd way to punish the Democrats.
Sorry Ryan, Kamala paid the price for being Kamala.
Our elections have been compromised for several reasons for decades - shall I list the ways: the electoral college, gerrymandering, corporate donations , lobbyists, and the 90 million Americans who didn’t vote. And all of our presidents since I’ve been voting (senior citizen here 😊) have committed genocide. None that we have watched on our phones though. And we really don’t know if there was a problem with this election. Like Starlink maybe? It didn’t matter who was elected. But it would have made a difference in benefits for the working class. Not to my satisfaction, but not the shit show we will see for domestic policies for the next 4 years. Just sayin….
People just bought into the Trump narrative of an anti-war candidate because the alternative was Kamala or Joe. I mean, any sane American with a beating heart could see right through the bullshit fed through the neoliberals in a blue capsule. The political system in the USofA is rotten and requires reforms in the shape of "get lobbying money" out of Washington.
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, people aren't enthusiastic about voting for someone who is funding the indiscriminate slaughter of children abroad rather than fixing our own deeply broken nation.
...and did not meet with Palestinians and people of Arab affiliation in Michigan or insist upon allowing the Palestinian delegation to speak at the convention
Since the outcome of the election was announced, in pretty much every casual interaction with non MAGA folks I’ve engaged with, they have all had a take on the loss as being to something other than the genocide. Misogyny the top choice. When I would mention that genocide was a moral decision impossible for many to support, they would get angry. Now when the conversation comes up, I get an elbow and a look from my wife that says, “Don’t go there.” I am grateful for this survey and DropSite covering the results. Should have been obvious.
I'm a bit baffled by this article and what is left out. I remember well Kamala's first response when asked if she would have done anything differently than Biden and she said she would have done NOTHING differently. And she was on AIPAC's payroll. Her husband, Doug Emhoff, was a total Zionist and in reading Biden's Executive Orders (below), as Second Gentleman he was appointed to one of the committees to combat Antisemitism. They were pro-Zionist to the hilt! She could not possibly have broken with Biden and would have continued the same genocidal policies.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/25/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-releases-first-ever-u-s-national-strategy-to-counter-antisemitism/
if anything has fueled antisemitism, it's people aligning with or ignoring israel's murderous genocide designed to steal ALL of Palestine at last. Biden could not have been more two-faced.
As if we needed more proof of genocide: Israel is now blocking HIV RX'S in Gaza.
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/1/15/gaza_aids
I read the article, but I didn't get that HIV meds are being targeted to be blocked? Aren't Gazans being deprived of Rx meds in general, just as they are deprived of food, water, and almost everything else?
You are right, but if there is anything that those trumpeting a rise of antisemitism in the US do routinely, it is avoiding all mention of Israel as having anything to do with it. This is an attempt to take eyes off of Israel and make believe that this supposed increase in antisemitism is nothing but pure evil and we should think of the Nazis, not of Netanyahu and the IDF. There is a term for this technique of distraction from the real cause by blaming something else - it is called producing a red herring.
The topper in all this is Netanyahu's claim that the US today is similar to what was happening in Germany in 1938!!!!
these non voters could have voted for a peace, 3rd party candidate but they didn't. Pleasse comment on that on your next post. You assert the duoploy ain't working but stronger 3rd parties could at least have gotten to the stage and articulate their postions next election cycle if more votes were cast their way. But the system is so broke getting on the podium and expressing their positions takes herculean endurace and $$$$ too fight off court rooms battles and state house bureaucracy. our system is so broke our democracy in shambles
As a lifelong Democrat, last November was the first time I sat the presidential election out -- primarily because my party financed the murderous ethnic cleansing war in Gaza.
But truth be told, Kamala Harris was a terrible candidate, and even if she said she would cut off U.S. funding of the war, I likely would have abstained from voting. She seemed vacuous and expressed no vision for the country, except to say she wasn't Trump. I couldn't vote for Trump either because he's an odious man in a million ways.
The Democrats ought to have a soul-searching, stop funding wars, support free speech, stop demonizing people who disagree, and find a younger, more visionary candidate for our time -- a candidate who is not ideological, but simply driven by what's good for the nation.
The proof that Trump has no mandate is that he was elected by only 27% of the electorate. Only about half of the electorate voted at all whereas in a typical presidential election year the percentage of the electorate that votes is 60%
What price, exactly, did she pay? She is a creature of the Empire and entirely expendable. No tears will be spilt over her 'loss', at least by me.
She lost the presidency; I'm sure she felt that very much, however anyone else might have though about it.
Actually, she isn't a real person but an inflatable that has now been deflated, folded up and put away.
Your point being?
After years of Russiagate bs, fascist censorship of a sitting president, using the IC to rig the 2020 election by lying about the Hunter laptop, using lawfare to eliminate every political opponent they could, not to mention 2 bs impeachments, using fascist censorship of social media to hide scamdemic vaccine lies, funding and arming of actual Ukrainian Nazis, or straight up sponsoring the genocide in Gaza - I was never going to vote Democrat in my life again, anyway. Piss on 'em forever.
That said, there no way I was going to vote for any candidate with his head up Israel's ass and whose VP wants war with Iran, either. They've forever been warpig neocons and so I've never voted Republican. I was a registered Libertarian in the 80s and 90s, otherwise unaffiliated.
My 2024 vote for US President was a write-in for a Russian citizen - born in the US. I wrote in Edward Joseph Snowden because he has more oath-integrity than anyone else I know, willing to sacrifice his personal freedom to protect constitutional freedoms of others.
President Trump, you really should pardon Edward Snowden and Julian Assange.